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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:59 pm
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1 - in Romania i think that is most 100 peoples(99% of them Prodigy fans) who know or even wors - heard, once maybe, about XL Recordings...- it's a fact, not discussing about the number of fans, or heard about Prodigy music
"who??Prodigy??? ahhh...that devil who sing Firestarter...aha i know...that is Prodigy, right???"
i remember that was sometime around '97-'98 after the release of FOTL one house production make a official release of it FOTL on tape :lol: , not CD, tape...- so promoting Prodigy music - A BIG 0

2 - they don't know the fact that The Prodigy is the most awarded band of MTV

3 - NEVER ... NEVER a Prodigy single on sale...

4 -
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People have this fantasy "people don't know Prodigy other than Firestarter and Breathe..."

sorry to disappoint you The Oracle, but here this is reallity

THE MUSIC TASTES IT'S CHANGING...
from 5039 registered users how many they are real Prodigy fans??? - buy music, listen to their music, know or try to know about it...
hard to say...
hope to be a great, and not the last album :lol:



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:08 pm
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Oh I hope the next album is great as well mate! I hope everyone all acrossed the world loves it! I want it to be for all the fans everywhere!

Sure I can understand what you're saying with what you have there. Everywhere is different, but look at that. You are closer to the UK than I am and some people just don't know about them the way others do in other parts of the world. It's crazy, but I guess in my village with Joe lol.. people still do know them and do know them for things other than just Firestarter and Breathe. Not everyone in the world does either though. I guess it's all down to how your local area takes to the band's music at the time. I really hope this next album will rock everyone in my area and everyone elses. Always be looking foward to what they will do next, that's what we're all doing. Then spread the word when they do release something, get your friends into it, get their friends into it. The more people we all expose to it the better the chances we have of introducing more people to our favourite act! Now if only we can get some more news from them.. like we've got a track working as a single.. something to peak our interests.. atleast let us know something is cooking up. I don't like knowing the album could come out next year because it was meant to be out this year too lol


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:35 pm
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if the album will be a blast and we'll have a single big as No Good&Firestarter then peoples will come back to Prodigy music, but not be a trully fans..., just a track fans like most peoples in the world...



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:38 pm
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When you look at it if Prodigy were taken in around the Experience era and Jilted era, and much better during the AONO and Their Law era.. we'd outsell the UK!

I think everywhere is equally important. I would never stoop to saying another country's charts are stupid. If Prodigy are rocking them that's pretty badass in my opinion. Especially Canada, if they're rocking there then wicked. It's pretty harsh of one to say nobody matters but the UK and nobody needs to America or anywhere else for that matter. I don't think you understand that American and Canadian markets combined are capable of more than 5 times the amount of the UK alone, and I'm not just talking about sales I'm talking about a potential fanbase.

The entire population of the UK alone is somewhere over 60,000,000. The entire population of the United States by itself, excluding Canada and Mexico is over 300,000,000. There is no force on earth that could possibly think Prodigy would make more money from a show in Spain than they would make from all the sales in America if they were hot here like they used to be.

But I guess that's my opinion... :roll: :lol:

Not sure I understand your point regarding 'Experience' and 'Jilted' sales in the US. Do you mean potential sales rather than actual sales? Anyway, the fact is the US record buying public liked 'TFOTL'. 'Experience' and 'Jilted' were not big sellers in the US.

I remember reading a quote from Beyonce's manager (her father) where he said the UK was more important to them than the USA because they sell more records in the UK. I think the UK record buying public buy a lot more records per population than the USA.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:47 pm
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does it really matter how many they sold, c,mon guys its just about the music :roll:



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:50 pm
The USA (and Canada for that matter) don't matter in terms of Electronic/Dance music. If we were all wiped off the face of the earth tomorrow, nobody would even notice. America matters if you're a rock band, a hip-hop artist, or some wanker Pop group. For the type of music that all of us are here talking about North America means fuck all. It just annoys me that people over here think we're so important about everything. Wow there's a big population here, but guess what there's a bigger population in China and India, but they don't matter in terms of this music, do they? North America is an added bonus. If you're popular over here, great. If you're not, who cares? You have all of Europe, Japan, Australia, etc. to be popular in.

So if the next Prodigy album sold 250,000 copies over here (i'm probably being generous with that number) Liam would get what? 70 cents per record? And make a cool $175,000. Like I said, he can go play one extra date in Spain... and get a vacation at the same time ;)

Like JJ said, AONO was 3 years ago. I really don't know why we keep going on about it. You didn't like it. Get over it.


PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:51 pm
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Fatboy Slim, Lo Fidelity Allstars, and several others have done wide ranged mixes like Dirtchamber

I have all those. Great records. Not even close to Dirtchamber (opinion!) :P


PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:03 pm
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And make a cool $175,000. Like I said, he can go play one extra date in Spain... and get a vacation at the same time ;)


Liam got like 250'000 Euros for that one date in Spain? Hell of a vacation!


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:19 pm
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>>>--Coggles---» wrote:
does it really matter how many they sold, c,mon guys its just about the music :roll:
So....... I Take it this doesn't mean shit to no one :shock:


its not all about having an argument over how many fucking albums got sold man or how much money it was


if that was the case we'd listen to shit pop music


have a bloody think guys jesus



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:59 pm
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what the fuck is going on here?!



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:29 pm
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James Jupiter wrote:
The Oracle wrote:
When you look at it if Prodigy were taken in around the Experience era and Jilted era, and much better during the AONO and Their Law era.. we'd outsell the UK!

I think everywhere is equally important. I would never stoop to saying another country's charts are stupid. If Prodigy are rocking them that's pretty badass in my opinion. Especially Canada, if they're rocking there then wicked. It's pretty harsh of one to say nobody matters but the UK and nobody needs to America or anywhere else for that matter. I don't think you understand that American and Canadian markets combined are capable of more than 5 times the amount of the UK alone, and I'm not just talking about sales I'm talking about a potential fanbase.

The entire population of the UK alone is somewhere over 60,000,000. The entire population of the United States by itself, excluding Canada and Mexico is over 300,000,000. There is no force on earth that could possibly think Prodigy would make more money from a show in Spain than they would make from all the sales in America if they were hot here like they used to be.

But I guess that's my opinion... :roll: :lol:

Not sure I understand your point regarding 'Experience' and 'Jilted' sales in the US. Do you mean potential sales rather than actual sales? Anyway, the fact is the US record buying public liked 'TFOTL'. 'Experience' and 'Jilted' were not big sellers in the US.

I remember reading a quote from Beyonce's manager (her father) where he said the UK was more important to them than the USA because they sell more records in the UK. I think the UK record buying public buy a lot more records per population than the USA.


im just saying from a stand point, america didnt really pick up on the albums prior to fotl because they really didnt know about the band or much of what was happening in europe with music like that. had we been a part of it we could very well be the biggest selling base of prodigy's music altogether, but i say that loosely.. just toying with the idea that had america taken to their first two albums it would go that way..


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BigSugar316 wrote:
The USA (and Canada for that matter) don't matter in terms of Electronic/Dance music. If we were all wiped off the face of the earth tomorrow, nobody would even notice. America matters if you're a rock band, a hip-hop artist, or some wanker Pop group. For the type of music that all of us are here talking about North America means fuck all. It just annoys me that people over here think we're so important about everything. Wow there's a big population here, but guess what there's a bigger population in China and India, but they don't matter in terms of this music, do they? North America is an added bonus. If you're popular over here, great. If you're not, who cares? You have all of Europe, Japan, Australia, etc. to be popular in.

So if the next Prodigy album sold 250,000 copies over here (i'm probably being generous with that number) Liam would get what? 70 cents per record? And make a cool $175,000. Like I said, he can go play one extra date in Spain... and get a vacation at the same time ;)

Like JJ said, AONO was 3 years ago. I really don't know why we keep going on about it. You didn't like it. Get over it.


i agree.. we're not much of a electronic based country.. we dont matter in those terms. but we are important, and why shouldn't we think we should be? is it so bad to want to be a bigger part of the electronic based scenes? the uk isn't the only country on the planet that should just matter. my love for this music says we should demand more from our promoters and the like. will that change anything probably not.. china does have a massive population base, but has pretty much nothing to do with any of this. america atleast has some involvement and continues to grow in involvement these days. i want prodigy and everyone else to be popular here so i dont have to fly across the world to see a band. it matters to me, because im involved in the scene and love many things about it. other countries to be popular in are fine with me but i'm trying to do more than just sit here and speculate why we're not very much involved do you know what i mean? lol

i hope they sell more than a couple hundred thousand records here.. nobody saw what happened here before.. anything is possible really. if the people like it it's going to get around and hopefully continue to sell well.

i dont know why when i talk about the past you assume i just mean aono.. yea i dont like it, im not going to get over it if i dont like it lol.. but when i talk about prodigy's past im not just on about aono.. why are people so defensive? you mention aono as part of prodigy's past and people want to mob you over it lol...

btw i wasn't just on about the at the boutique albums.. they've got other mixes (fatboy slim & lo fidelity all stars.. and others as well). liam's mix does have quite a range but there are others out there like it that are cool as well for what they are :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:40 pm
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crazyboy wrote:
what the fuck is going on here?!


there's nothing better to do so we're having a debate :lol:

i think some people got the wrong idea and thought bigsugar and i are at war with each other lol.. we're really not though, just having a disagreement that's all. we're all entitled to our opinions, it is a forum :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:15 pm
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4ever2mind wrote:
if the album will be a blast and we'll have a single big as No Good&Firestarter then peoples will come back to Prodigy music, but not be a trully fans..., just a track fans like most peoples in the world...


Okay .... it´s my opinion, but for me i.e. "Spitfire" or "Hotride" are BIGGER tracks than "No Good" , but they weren`t as successful as "No Good" here....

Concerning advertising and promoting AONO 3 years ago in Germany...
the album was released, I often played it at work and a lot of people asked me "Hey, what music is it ?" And I said "It´s the new prodigy album!" "What ? There is a new Prodigy album out ?"

Less people knows about the release, it reached only place 12 or 13 here in the charts for only one week as far as I can remember - that´s it !
That´s all for AONO here in Germany..... The gig here in Berlin was great, but only 2500 - 3000 tickets were sold.

Media and TV are too mighty - they decide what you have to like and the most people following it. Take a look into the charts - a lot of crap there !

BUT: There´s another reason why AONO wasn´t a big seller here.... it is the internet ! That´s why Liam will not play any new material before an album release....

I really do understand him.



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:18 pm
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i hope liam starts to play his new material when they set out to play live again... be confident in what you do and play it out. people are dying to hear so much as the beta versions of the new stuff even lol. i can't wait! 8-)


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