Sure it is and it is always good when such debates are on fire!

I know what you mean, BUT not america don't matters in terms of electronic music, IT'S YOUR MEDIA AND MTV. For example: I like to watch a program on a French/German channel (ARTE) called "Tracks". It's about music and culture. They make interviews with new/old interesting or innovative Music-Groups. Once they interviewed some school children in Detroit asking them "What music do you do like? What music people in your town listen to" and this small children (another potential legion of mtv-mass media victims) answered "Of course Detroit Techno".
Interesting, isn't it?

Besides that every Hip-Hop producer (escpecially Timbaland) will tell you that Kraftwerk had a deep impact in the musical face of Hip-Hop's style even in this new school hip-hop shit.

I think that you mean, that the majority of people in america does not care about electronica.

Well we EUROPEANS like very much electronic music.......
BUT the majority of the european citizens (I think you guess it) like utter crap like Scooter or 4x4 Beat mononous "electronic" music labled here as "Techno" which is not the music-style we know from respected labels (WARP, Skam, Nova Mute etc). Every popular electronic style is labled here as Techno.

SO we suffer similar problems on our continent. And don't worry, I was a musical outsider in my school, where the sound of The Chemical Brothers was labled as TOO heavy techno crap.

Some quotes:

"Prodigy? That's this evil band from the 90's?"
"Trip-Hop what?"
Talking to modern gothics:"Do you know Bauhaus or Sisters of Mercy [Founding fathers of goth-rock]? No, we don't know this bands, what do they play?"
"What's drum'n'bass?"
Talking to some EBM-heads: "Do you know Front 242 [also founding fathers of this genre]? "No"


....and it could go on and on!

yage, aint germany the home of like hardcore techno or somthing, i mean look at TECHNOVIKING he's german lol

Great to read this thread while being piss drunk.

I just think that Oracle doesn't really like aono because of its mere elektro trash influence.
I just think aono came at the wrong time, if you look at some of the more popular electronic acts today like justice, digitalism, soulwax, boyz noize...you just start realising what kind of impact aono could have caused today.

Same with shadow imo, if they promoted this track heavily today, it could work very well in the clubs.
But personally I'm getting bored of elektro nowadays, it's becoming a standard glitch with saw basslines kinda thing. I would love to see Liam returning to a more oldskool way of producing mixed with some new cutting edge technology.
Take a look at him performing live, he's totally into tweaking and playing live melodies with that virus TI. For me that points towards a creative, more intuitive way of production again. Aono was more loop dj based as he said to me.
The new album is gonna piss on aono imo and I don't really care about promotion, sales, mtv airplay and other bullshit as long as I can play new prodigy music on my stereo which touches me and as long as I can continue seeing them perform live.

No! Germany is home of many (Ex-)Euro-Dance producers, Happy Hardcore, and I think you mean Gabba (fast hardcore techno). CRAP-Styles. JUST SHIT!

But Germany is also home of unique genious groups/people that changed (electronic) music. I refer to : Kraftwerk, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Can, Faust, Tangerine Dream. We all know our beloved groups like Prodigy, The Chems, UNKLE, Orbital and and and, which would never sound like they did, if the above meantioned groups would not exist.

(I don't count untouchable masters like Beethoven, Bach or Wagner)

Agreed. With Justice, and everyone else you listed doing very well right now, I think if AONO was released this year it would have been much bigger. I still think Girls is one of the best tracks he ever produced. Like you said, doesn't really matter to me as long as I personally like it and blast it on my stereo

amen brother tim...all boils down to personal taste, likes, dislikes

Charly Zinc remix



That's the quality it was uploaded to myspace at. Not the poor 96kb/s stream.

I'm not sure if someone has posted it yet, but I thought I'ld link it anyway.

You can't download from that link. Did you grab it? Post it up somewhere else if you did.

the same here in poland. i was at creamfields poland this year where prodigy were headliners. most of the people at the festival didnt come to see prodigy, they came to listen TECHNO. i've even heard a question "what kind of techno prodigy is?" (SIC!). there was more funny thing: some people though that Vitalic (support) is The prodigy. Hard to believe but this is the way how polish people see prodigy. simply they don't know them. they don't know newer tracks as Warning, Back 2 Skool, Spitfire and other.

AONO in Poland was released under Sonic Records label and it wasn't promoted in any way! it was very hard to get any AONO singles, they were imported from the UK as "special order". and there was no option to get any records on vinyl! the album didn't sell well because there is no artist in poland which is selling well do you know how many cds have to be sold to get "gold disc" status? 10 000 copies! in 30 milions country!

The prodigy history in poland is very short. 1st gig: 1996, first record release: 1997! (until 1997 prodigy's records in poland were unavelible. in 97 KOCH International out whole discography: from charly to smbu, on cds and tapes, also they released dirtchamber in 99); 2nd gig: 1998, in 2002 Sonic records out BGAT with promotional postcards; in 2004 sonic out AONO, 3rd gig: 2006, 4th gig: 2007. And that all, this is the Poland. No promotion, no well selling albums, nothing. exist only TECHNO

I just tried and it worked for me. Maybe my browser works differently. Anyway, I did a megaupload.

thanks dagger

I just downloaded it, it's the same quality as before.

Dagger, if you maybe got the link from the .xml file of the music player, I think that generally those .mp3 files are in the same poor quality (think I read it somewhere)

Get firefox, download the downloadhelper plugin

yes, but you still get poor 96kbit quality.. I did it with Replay Media Catcher.