Naa, I'm not saying get rid of them, they're main purpose should stay as it was when they originally joined Liam.. to give the live shows more energy.
Even in the studio I don't mind the odd track with Keith n Maxim on, BUT, only if it makes the song better! My opinion is that (although not amazin to begin with) Colours n Piranha were ruined by Keith n Maxim with their daft lyrics. As I said before, I think Liam only used them as much as he did on IMD because how badly AONO was received by the fans. But he was wrong to do so, or at least use them as much as he has, the reason AONO wasn't a hit with the fans was NOT because Maxim n Keith were absent, its because it sounded shit n the quality of the songs wasn't commercial soundin enough. No? If Keith n Maxim were on AONO it still wouldn't of made the album any better. Same with Mescaline, Liam's right to leave out Keith on it. His small vocal part on it was pointless, leave it as something to do over the track live.

Oh, AND... THE PRODIGY = LIAM HOWLETT

No. Continue in what you write is that only Liam is making the music, that he sits in studio alone and "hey Flinty and Maxim give me some vocals". Flint and Maxim are not only responsible for the vocals in the studio.

Maxim and Keith don't help Liam with the actual music. They give their input with ideas and obviously their opinions. Every interview I've read or heard when this topic comes up Liam has said that he is the one doing the music. Last interview I saw on the PSN Vidzone feature Maxim said something along the lines of "this time we were in the studio WATCHING Liam put these tracks together and giving our input".

Hopefully someone can upload that interview up here somewhere, if not.. I'll try to do it but I've just moved and shit is everywhere.

EDIT : Also, I believe Prodigy fans are sorta split into 2 groups... There's "THE PRODIGY" fans and the "LIAM HOWLETT" fans.

hope we dont get into this convo again but we should know that even though liam writes all the music doesn't mean prodigy would be better without keith and maxim, liam writes these tunes with maxim and keiths voice and lyrics in mind.

mescaline started off with maxim, then keith, then both, then none.

these things give reason to some fans to want to hear keith or maxims lyrics in the song, mescaline wouldn't be the song it is without keith or maxim because liam tried to make it a band tune but things never turned out ideally as he wanted obviously.

i still love this track but thats the reason why people are missing lyrics and also why people aren't missing the lyrics

? Liam is the only one making the music, I picture him working on his own, on his laptop or something, doing a basic demo mix of a track, say for instance Take Me To The Hospital n THEN he would give it to Keith and Maxim to ruin.. I mean write vocals for. If its not like that now then it certainly used to be like that. All though the Experience-era it was all Liam on his own, for all of the MFTJG-era (with the exception of Poison) it was all Liam solo, even half of FOTL was Liam solo, all of AONO was Liam solo, even half of IMD is Flint n Maxim absent. My point is.. The Prodigy is all Liam, Keith n Maxim only have a small role in the constructing of the music, i.e. writing the odd vocal part, but Liam just uses it the same as any other vocal sample on all of their other albums.



You hit the nail on the head there! exactly

I personally think that Mescaline is an awesome track , however ....
I just wish that Liam would start releasing all versions of the B´sides he makes.
That way people can listen to their favorite version as they wish.
Now ( and in the past ) Liam tends to release a track that we , the fans, are asking for, about 2 years and 5 versions later.
As I mentioned before, I think that Mescaline is an awesome track, but if I had the choice, I'd listen to the earlier less glitchy version.
btw..... I don't care about the vocals.

Dunno about releasing loads of different versions of the same songs but, he should definitely release shit as bsides instead of spending fuckin forever on it doin reworks only for it to be inferior to the earlier versions. What the fuck is wrong with Heatwave Hurricane? What the fuck was wrong with Mescaline when it was Unstoppable? So much of the unreleased stuff is already more than release-worthy, and, its only a fuckin bside, why put all the effort into it? If it was for an album then yeah I could understand him wanting it to be as best as it can be but extra tracks on singles that hardly anyones gonna hear (mainly cause hardly anyone buys singles anymore... apart from us ) just seems like a bit of a waste of time.
God! Now I know why people say I moan too much!

I think he holds onto tracks purely because he is attached to certain elements of it and doesn't want to "throw them away" in a B-side track. What I mean is for example maybe there is a section of Heatwave he really likes and wants to save it for possible use on a future track, well if he takes that element away from Heatwave then what's left is probably not really worth releasing. So he just holds onto it. Because once the track is out there then he probably doesn't want to re-use certain stuff (yeah I know he does this abit already)... I know I'm just speculating (so no need to point that out to me) but that's what I think happens with him.

I understand what HELL-RAZOR was saying about different versions... look at how many versions of UNDER MY WHEELS we got. But we don't have 1 single version of tons of other tracks. I know this is all off topic shit talk. I'm pretty much finished adding my part anyways.

Also I remmeber Liam saying a while back we'd hear the original version of OMEN.... because it was very different. hope he keeps his word but we all know he's forgotten by now no doubt!

Anything like Beat 55?

@live4ever2008 - Yeah probably was..

Hopefully he wont release it with with Keith saying 'this is the fuckin shit!' over the top of it! ONLY JOKIN

Wasn't that Maxim?

IMHO for the most part, keith and maxim should just be quiet.. they should do what they where orgininal for.. the live shows. not studio tracks

yeah, and actually I thought that sounded cool! haha

Yep.

Liam said about first version of Omen - same vocals but totally different track.