Gruia wrote:
there's hardly anything he hasn't pioneered.
Fixed!
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| Author: | Aquila [ Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:51 am ] |
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Gruia wrote: there's hardly anything he hasn't pioneered.
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| Author: | Cogglesz [ Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:19 pm ] |
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what im gonna do is just fire up audacity and some stand alone vst's and push record and see what i get  just wanna use pure synths in this tune im working on
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| Author: | Kubazz [ Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:05 pm ] |
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can i recreate a sample? |
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| Author: | Cogglesz [ Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:07 pm ] |
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i just think it has to be purly your own material and not based on any other material |
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| Author: | FinalX [ Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:21 am ] |
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Blacklabel wrote: it does? oh shit it does!
 bah...  Guess those elements crept subreptiously from the back of my brain??? I actually had Amon Tobin's Sordid track in my mind as an inspiration while making it  oh dear.. back to the drawing board? Too close for comfort? What you guys say?I didn't say it was bad, it has potential. I just pointed out that it reminded me those two prodge tunes. I guess that would be a complement. 
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| Author: | Blacklabel [ Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:01 am ] |
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oooooooohhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! alrighty then 
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| Author: | TMWKTM [ Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:54 am ] |
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Cogglesz wrote: i just think it has to be purly your own material and not based on any other material
It's hard to say "no sampling" at all. Liam has never written a tune in his life that wasn't sampled from somewhere else. I think the main point BK is trying to make is it's not supposed to be a Prodigy-clone album and we don't want some blatant "Kanye West" sampled tunes of well known tracks. |
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| Author: | MasterEvilAce [ Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:06 am ] |
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What about a sound clip of speaking taken from a tv show? |
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| Author: | Cogglesz [ Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:51 pm ] |
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i think i get it here with the samples. Tim said we can't be like prodigy clones meaning we use the same samples as what liam used or actually make samples from prodigy tunes. Tim also says we can't be like kanye west and i know what he means here, we can't take an obvious sample from a tune, like somthing like daft punks, stronger harder faster tune and then make a song based on that song. tv samples i'd say is ok, as long as its not somthing like the simpsons or somthing we would all reconise is ok. Chopped up and highly edited beats from a tune that aint all prodigy would be aloud to i'd say. the list goes on. i think thats how its ment to be |
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| Author: | Necronomicon2 [ Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:38 pm ] |
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I really think he means no vocal/melody loopsampling from anywhere. Make everything yourself (mic and whatever). But drums I agree should be okay, as long as its worked to the bone... |
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| Author: | ©@rm4g3dd0n [ Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:25 pm ] |
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BRAINKILLER wrote: no samples at all,
Ehm, I wanted to send a track which uses a conversation sample from a cartoon. So it means, I should not send it? |
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| Author: | Cogglesz [ Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:04 pm ] |
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i think thats ok lol depends what cartoon |
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| Author: | ©@rm4g3dd0n [ Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:05 pm ] |
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Courage the cowardly dog 
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| Author: | Cogglesz [ Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:13 pm ] |
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©@rm4g3dd0n wrote: Courage the cowardly dog never herd of it lol go ahead it should be fine
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| Author: | lothario [ Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:36 pm ] |
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Well, think about it like this: Say you use a copyrighted sample that no one recognizes, and this album ends up being available commercially. Then suddenly the original copyright owners knocks on BK's door saying "we didn't allow that sample to be used, according to law you must pay us xx thousand dollars, because you are making money with our property". So ask yourself: is this sample really so essential that I want to risk that, or can I work around it? A general rule of thumb is, the more obscure the source, the less chance of the above happening. And by obscure source I mean for example from a porn movie or a short educational film from 1957 or similar. But you'd never know. However, BK said NO samples AT ALL. So use nothing from TV, movies, music releases, internet releases, radio and live recordings. But what if I really mess up the sample, so it's totally unrecognizable? It doesn't matter. The same laws apply. A similar example: Even if no one knows you're downloading pirated movies, you're still breaking the law. And if it's discovered you're held accountable for it. But what about this awesome breakbeat from this 70's track, can't I use that? No. The same laws apply. However this is where I don't give a fuck. I need my old funky breakbeats, else I can't work. And if that means I'm out of the competition, so be it. But I believe drums are not considered samples, cause every drumkit have too similar sounds and rhythms to be distinguishable. In the end, you really can't say if I sampled the drums, or had a friendly drummer record it. That's my opinion anyhow. |
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