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Agent Orange
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:53 pm |
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The Orange Authority Posts: 4748Location: NetherlandsJoined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:39 pm
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Yeah Geil wrote: ©@rm4g3dd0n wrote: Agent Orange wrote: To me, if you didn't know this... It's like finding out Liam does all the music, and not Keth and Maxim.  i know u say it joyfully, but why do people think that if you very well like a band then you have to just know every damn thing about them?  even the footsize of each member? does these things make you a fan? cause then I'm not a fan, so what? I just very well enjoy their music and that's all I need. you know... a little action, not lexical knowledge, is all i need  and btw tell me one more thing then: why is it that in the booklet of albums samples are not mentioned? i mean, take tfotl for instance. u read smbu has elements from give the dummer some, but the fact that it also contains a sample of in memory of isn't ever mentioned. or that breathe contains an elements from da mystery of chessboxin by wu-tang-clan. why is it? shouldn't they mention every damn samples due to copyrights?????? copyrights change and stuff... but to the first half of your comment: a big +1
I have to agree on that too, but COME ON. Basically EVERY Prodigy track is sampled. Name one track that is 100% studiowork by Liam. Probably ALL tracks contain samples...  So seriously, 3 Kilos is obviously... sampled. One way or another.
Anyway, I wasn't being too serious about that statement. It's just that it shouldn't come as a surprise that a less well-known track like 3 Kilos is built up from unknown tracks by artists long forgotten. This is the power of Prodigy. Being some kind of pirates, showing how it's really done with the music.  So yeah. I don't see why you're surprised on what I said. It's pretty much basic Prodigy knowledge, right? hehe
Anyway: No hard feelings, I didn't mean to piss you guys off. Honestly.
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©@rm4g3dd0n
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:40 pm |
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General Posts: 1729Location: HungaryJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:53 pm
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Agent Orange wrote: Probably ALL tracks contain samples... 
ah now tell me Intro on mfjtg contains a sample of '....' by '.....'  Actually, I know they sample a lot, but I honestly thought narcotic suite is his own creation at all, basic knowledge here, being a fan there. cant imagine a cunt who never does at least ONE single track that is totally his own. its not possible due to laws of human being
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raggedflag
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:22 pm |
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General Posts: 1409Location: AnywhereJoined: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:12 pm
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Intro on MFTJG is also full of samples
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Harbinger
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:56 pm |
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General Posts: 6553Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:44 am
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Molotov Bitch is all original, isn't it?
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feelthy
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:00 pm |
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A.K.A. feelxPosts: 3059Location: Montréal, QCJoined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:32 pm
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Agent Orange wrote: Yeah Geil wrote: ©@rm4g3dd0n wrote: Agent Orange wrote: To me, if you didn't know this... It's like finding out Liam does all the music, and not Keth and Maxim.  i know u say it joyfully, but why do people think that if you very well like a band then you have to just know every damn thing about them?  even the footsize of each member? does these things make you a fan? cause then I'm not a fan, so what? I just very well enjoy their music and that's all I need. you know... a little action, not lexical knowledge, is all i need  and btw tell me one more thing then: why is it that in the booklet of albums samples are not mentioned? i mean, take tfotl for instance. u read smbu has elements from give the dummer some, but the fact that it also contains a sample of in memory of isn't ever mentioned. or that breathe contains an elements from da mystery of chessboxin by wu-tang-clan. why is it? shouldn't they mention every damn samples due to copyrights?????? copyrights change and stuff... but to the first half of your comment: a big +1I have to agree on that too, but COME ON. Basically EVERY Prodigy track is sampled. Name one track that is 100% studiowork by Liam. Probably ALL tracks contain samples...  So seriously, 3 Kilos is obviously... sampled. One way or another. Anyway, I wasn't being too serious about that statement. It's just that it shouldn't come as a surprise that a less well-known track like 3 Kilos is built up from unknown tracks by artists long forgotten. This is the power of Prodigy. Being some kind of pirates, showing how it's really done with the music.  So yeah. I don't see why you're surprised on what I said. It's pretty much basic Prodigy knowledge, right? hehe Anyway: No hard feelings, I didn't mean to piss you guys off. Honestly. 
i did not know 3 Kilos used that sample, but that isn't much of a problem because I'm not interested in knowing every sample Prodigy use in their music making (I'm totally not the most assiduous fan in here). what we can agree on, though, is that some samples are minor (like "Smack My Bitch Up") and some other are quite major (like Phoenix and Stand Up as mentionned)
what had me surprised here, isn't discovering the use of such a major sample, but the fact that it wasn't credited the way Phoenix and Stand Up were
I mean, it's ok if they let some minor samples (that blend discreetly into the mix) go uncredited, but if a major sample (featuring a big piece of melody) makes a track sound just like another, I think it's common sense that it should get credited, otherwise it's plain stealing
btw no tension here
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©@rm4g3dd0n
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:25 pm |
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General Posts: 1729Location: HungaryJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:53 pm
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feelish wrote: what had me surprised here, isn't discovering the use of such a major sample, but the fact that it wasn't credited the way Phoenix and Stand Up were I mean, it's ok if they let some minor samples (that blend discreetly into the mix) go uncredited, but if a major sample (featuring a big piece of melody) makes a track sound just like another, I think it's common sense that it should get credited, otherwise it's plain stealing btw no tension here 
yeah man, thats what i was also babbling. i cant really understand how can it even be. as for myself i say ok if a u use a sample but u distort and twist it so much that it cannot be even recognized at all and u let it go uncredited, but otherwise i say every damn samples should be credited.
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©@rm4g3dd0n
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:35 pm |
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General Posts: 1729Location: HungaryJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:53 pm
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dirt
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:44 am |
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General Posts: 1967Location: UKJoined: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:28 pm
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liam used to use the beginning of that track as a fill
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Agent Orange
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:41 pm |
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The Orange Authority Posts: 4748Location: NetherlandsJoined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:39 pm
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©@rm4g3dd0n wrote: Agent Orange wrote: Probably ALL tracks contain samples...  ah now tell me Intro on mfjtg contains a sample of '....' by '.....'
Pierce Brosnan in Lawnmower Man (written by Stephen King, Brett Leonard and Gimel Everett). By the way, it's not really a sample, rather 'heavily inspired by'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9zGCuoIcYU
How convenient, I'm actually the first one on Youtube to upload this (I did this especially for you). Any questions?
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©@rm4g3dd0n
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:23 pm |
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General Posts: 1729Location: HungaryJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:53 pm
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i donno if i should consider this a sample. my idea of a sample is some kind of a rhythm not some speeches from a movie. and, like u said, its rather a "heavily inspired by" situation than a real sample. especially that the "vocal" on intro has been re-recorded by someone else. and if u said "any questions?", yes I have one: who did the speech in the intro? liam himself?
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