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Author:  Chaosu [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Is Stand Up too simiar to... ?

Yeah, I just bought the album and gave it a listen. I heard few 'simial' sounds but the one for Stand Up was like a total ripoff. I checked with the song that I thought of and it turned out to be similar but not a ripoff, so I want to ask You for opinion. I'm talking about 'fanfares' part, but just the 'rising' part (3-4 seconds). I think it's similar to The Offspring - Denial, Revisited, You can listen to it here:
http://fredkaa.wrzuta.pl/audio/cWZ9yLo0 ... acy_of_one
I am not thinking about intro (which sounds similar anyway), but Dexters voice when he start singing. I cross-played them, but the tempo is different. I separated those parts and played one after another and it's other (Dexters last note is lower, while Liams fanfares last note is highest), but still similar.

I thought someone with good ear can help me. Thanks in advance.

Author:  addikt [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:15 pm ]
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... hmmmm

Author:  paolocar88 [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:16 pm ]
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indeed similar but not ripoff imo

Author:  dirt [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:44 pm ]
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i think you will fidn that is just coincidance
and its the sample liam used you should be looking into not what the prodigy have created

Author:  *PinHead* [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:16 am ]
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dirt wrote:
i think you will fidn that is just coincidance
and its the sample liam used you should be looking into not what the prodigy have created
+1

Author:  streamblenda [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:05 pm ]
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why would liam even listen to the offspring

Author:  Chaosu [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:36 pm ]
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streamblenda wrote:
why would liam even listen to the offspring

because hes not fucking ignorant : D

yeah guys, i don't accuse Master of anything bad, just found that similar and thought I will share, thats the right forum to do it

Author:  nucleartitan [ Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:19 pm ]
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the problem of stand up is another,it's that stand'up riff is one of the most used riff of this universe,that's why i don't like so much this track,it's something already heard,it's not only about the sample,but of the enitre track,the sample especially,i can't compare it with 3 kilos which is based on a sample too,but in a divine and original way.Stand Up is just a cheesy track with a riff used too much.....i could give you a no-ending list of the songs that have this riff.

Author:  Chaosu [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:16 am ]
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nucleartitan wrote:
i could give you a no-ending list of the songs that have this riff.


give it

(3 songs will be more than enough, but i doubt you can name one)

Author:  nucleartitan [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:21 am ]
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rolling stones-simpathy for the devil
guns and roses-paradise city
robbie williams-let me entertain you

these are only 3,just because you asked me only 3,but if you want i can continue.

Author:  Chaosu [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:45 pm ]
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go and check wikipedia for 'riff' because You are confusing it with something else, perhaps rhythm, tempo or bars (i can't tell You because I don't know english words for that, but as riff is used in polish I am sure it's not it)

those songs (each different, i am sorry for You if You think its all same) maybe have similar drum scheme, but thats not riff

Author:  nucleartitan [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:43 pm ]
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i don't want to seem arrogant,but you'd got to go on wikipedia and encyclopedia,'cause maybe you don't know what you're talking about......in all thes songs that i named you,it's the melody really similar,almost identical to stand up melody,it's not about drums,drums are the only different part and as i told you,i can continue the"no ending" list.This is the most used riff in the history of music.

Author:  Kubazz [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:06 pm ]
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melody is not the same thing as riff

Author:  Chaosu [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:11 pm ]
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nucleartitan wrote:
i don't want to seem arrogant,but you'd got to go on wikipedia and encyclopedia,'cause maybe you don't know what you're talking about......in all thes songs that i named you,it's the melody really similar,almost identical to stand up melody,it's not about drums,drums are the only different part and as i told you,i can continue the"no ending" list.This is the most used riff in the history of music.


i double checked 'riff' on wikipedia, both in my mother language and in english, did You? I checked and later I made my post here to be sure I'm not the wrong one here.

Author:  nucleartitan [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:12 pm ]
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you're right,of course,but when i meant riff,i didn't mean drums riff or bass riff or effect riffs,so it's my mistake,because i didnt' specificate,but i meant melody riff that in stand up case is about melody of brass and bass.
And about the other similar songs,they're not identical,but you know,it's a too used melody i think.

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