You mean a middle ground between the release and a leak?

Streamings are always 1 week before the release. So the album will be officaly listenable on the 24th march.

I'm assuming this is a mistake and it should say "Rebel Radio [Proxy Mix]".

http://gekirock.com/news/2015/02/the-pr ... ier_mv.php

Middle ground between an advance album stream and full release. I dunno, the way they're publicising this album is so old school compared to how most are done nowadays. It's no different to IMD.

I don't expect a full album stream going up on iTunes for free like a lot of albums do nowadays. But a track-by-track talkthrough over the music? Sounds like a decent compromise.

I actually don't care which chart position all the album and its songs reach, I just want to hear it as sooner as possible and I want to fuckin' see them live. I don't care about iTunes, Spotify and shit like that. i think that nowadays more as before, the way to get better is doing live.

Thats not really fair.. Liam's sound collection used in his tracks comes from analogue gear that he sampled himself.

As Liam says during: -



The drums on 'The Day Is My Enemy' are by Top Secret Drum Corps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Secret_Drum_Corps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW3QVLlK-kE

You're not trying to imply that Liam never used anything digital, are you? Cos 2/3 of his 90's gear IS digital and was heavily used, see the examples above.
Even the samplers store and process _digitally_, which makes the whole popular debate about 'digital generally sounding worse than analogue' silly. SOME sources were analogue once, before being sampled, others weren't. You can seriously say Liam never sampled anything digital, if that was what you were implying. He used the old Zero G-sample CD's a lot, and many of their things were all but analogue. Then he also had digital fx.
It was the time were the VA's (virtual analogue) synth became popular. Liam used lots of'em. The Nord Lead for example, the Virus etc. He also had that the Orbit, which was not all that good sounding, but he still found uses for it.
So, yes, Liam has always used a lot of digital sources. And: who cares. He was better than good in making any sort of sound, regardless of its origin, sound great and he always knew how to integrate sounds perfectly into a mix. SMBU is a prime example of his sound shaping skills.

What I'm saying is: Liam using lots of analogue equipment these days doesn't have much to do with how good the record is (or not). If I were to play you some (selected and well crafted) sounds from a modern software synth and some from an analogue synth you very likely wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Same goes for compressors etc. EQ's may be a tad different, but also here we have almost perfect emulations already.
Plus: The way the record will be limited in dynamics (as far as I can tell by now) it won't make any difference if the sources were analogue or digital once. Even mixing on a nice analogue desk kind of looses a lot of its purpose when you squash everything to smithereens at the end of the chain, which is probably what happened here.

I don't think that anyone will question your knowledge about digital music and equipment.

If I take Spor's remix of Nasty for instance, I think it sounds like plastic, like a lot of other DnB or general EDM stuff. Not all of them, of course, but it's my general impression. I never felt that with Liam's stuff, at least much less. So is it just me or there's something different?

Are you saying that making it sound like plastic is a trend? Wouldn't surprise me, I'm sure some people like that it sounds artificial.

There is something different. But it's got nothing to do with analog vs. digital. It's just the way it's produced. Liam layers a lot more generous these days and doesn't care so much about the noisy aspect, so it automatically sounds rich and 'full' and warm. But also sort of mushy and more wall-of-white-noise-like, with less air for the whole thing to breathe and develop. I miss the definition of the distortion here.

I don't remember the sound of the SPOR version, but I think I know what you mean with the plastic sound. I also don't like that. This is something people seem to look for, though. Got nothing to do with analog/digital. In electronic music I like mixes that leave space for the individual sounds to have their own weight (-not so much happening in some of the later Prodigy tunes-) and precise cutting basses and punchy bass drums and snares. Still, there's gotta be some sound-design, some atmosphere. As far as electronic music with a bite goes, I think Ed Rush & Opticals last record Travel The Galaxy had a great overall sound. Warm, punchy, menacing. It sounded like an unstoppable oil covered murder machine moving forward. Check out "Chubrub", for example.

FOTL also sounded (and still sounds) extremely well done. There was lots of distortion, but always very precise and with lots of definition. Diesel Power still sounds better than many things from these days, I find. Great mix. It leaves enough space to see through and doesn't boarder on the white noise problem, all while ripping your ears apart.

Today it's really easy to over-layer tunes, just because you can have almost as many tracks as you want. But yeah, many people go for that plasticcy sound, which to me also comes from a lack of dirt in the tracks. Some people forget the filth. It's part of the atmosphere of a track, but these days things are polished and pumped to death. Even HipHop has become sadly clean.

So at least Liam doesn't go the over-produced 'minimal'-route. Even if he exaggerates the whole noise thing a little.

that was not my point. my point is that many of the fat sounds liam used, came from a analogue gear, but he sampled it, and then it became a digital sample.

I got that, and I also addressed that already.

Yeah I get your point and I think you're right about the whole digital vs. analog debate. I agree with you on the lack of dirt in today's tracks, I don't like tracks that are too clean, that's indeed what makes them sound like plastic.

I checked out Chubrub, it's a cool track. It's the kind of DnB that I like, maybe you put your finger on why I don't like DnB anymore compared to 10-15 years ago. I'll check out the whole album later, thanks man.

Spor Remix is the biggest disappointment. Especially when he removed the big drumbeats breakdown and the last part of cool oldschool electronic riffs and just made half of the track a instrumental of the half first track.

Why the hell did he do the track worse than the live version? It could have been better but he removed all the stuffs that made the track good and just did a mediocre remix that i dont give a crap about.

And im amazed that this album has not leaked yet

Cool, I was DnB head too. I thought the sound changed unfavorably these days (plastic), that's why I like that Ed Rush & Optical record so much. It's old skool but with the heft and precision that modern technology allows. Best of both worlds, so to say.
Maybe Liam should to collabs with these guys..