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Grunt Posts: 9Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:45 am
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freehandjunkie wrote: yeah that has been my worry, especially when you hear the guys interviewed, its seems from a creative point of view, liam struggles to write these days, but thats not just the prodigy it happens to a lot of great bands, the first 5 months of writing IMD produced nothing and they started again, i think when you are so successful as the prodigy were in that period from 92 till 98, i dont care what people say you will try to recapture that time, liam howlett is yes is too clever and talented to to write any old repeated shit so to speak, but this album is not a massive push in a new direction or groundbreaking as we are so used to as prodigy fans... i think people are over hyping the greatness of this album, its mad to compare this with the golden era of the prodigy, take it for a great album of 2009 which it will be but for me it will never rank alongside the 3 great prodigy albums and i wish people wouldnt try to put it with these,....i do think some of the stuff on this album is a bit lazy from a creative point of view especially when you talk of liam being arguably the most important guys ever in electronic music...you set such high standards you expect it all the time and that is impossible!...just my humble opinion anyway..
Personally I disagree. I think what they have knowingly done is write tracks which are a throwback to the glory days. Theres only so much new ground you can go in a genre of music. Rock music, essentially, has all sounded the same for well over a decade now. Electronic music....when Experience was released it was ground breaking....took rave into the mainstream for the first time. Jilted went darker, heavier and was a style that was barely heard of at the time. FOTL went the rockier, big beat and again was ground breaking and unheard of at the time. I think electronic music might be at the point now where theres probably not so much new ground to break anymore. As I said though...i think they have knowingly gone back to the glory days with this album....theres so many old school sounds and breakbeats and in my opinion the tracks sound like they are written specifically for the live show as opposed to for an album. The older school sounds wont be everyones cup of tea and it is a bit of 'been there done that'...but it doesnt have to be ground breaking to be a great album. The songs and the album as a whole should be viewed on its own merits. I dont see how being linked to being a Jilted II is a negative. I also think we should wait for the actual album to be released |
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just ordered IMD CD+dvd+badjets €11.99 from fnac
http://www.fnac.pt/pt/Catalog/Detail.as ... 1297880151 |
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 General Posts: 2007Location: NorwayJoined: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:50 pm
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I think styles go away and comes back again. just like all styles of music, movies, and other things do.
I think the breakbeat and synth-riff-style from 1994-97 is comming back again. And thats a good thing if you ask me.. 
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| GruntPosts: 79Location: Brentwood, Essex (UK)Joined: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:23 pm
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joethelion wrote: Diesel wrote: Half of the stuff that's sampled was never released!? You technically shouldn't have heard it unless you were at one of the gigs... well - that's not necessarily true - it's not HALF and yea - about hearing stuff from before; I actually was at one of the gigs back when they came to the US for the "Their Law" tour, I saw them in DC they played "Warning" there - and an instrumental version of it was officially released on the "Smoking Aces" soundtrack and do you guys think that there's any connection between "Gun Reprise" or whatever it's called and "Omen (Reprise)"? I totally forgot about that track... if you don't know what I mean -> originally there was "Trigger" which eventually became "Shootdown" an early version of "Shoot Down" was called "Guns [feat. Liam on vocal and Noel on bass]" and the studio version got played on the BBC in 2007 there was also a reprise of it - part/most of it was put on the "Their Law DVD" as a hidden track (Labeled as something like "Always Outnumbered Outtakes" or something to that effect) and then even played live later along the "Their Law / Greatest Hits Tour" ... I think in like Japan or something... Jeez no need to get "technical" about it, no one cares if it's one quarter of the tracks or one third, it was the point that some of the stuff was never officially released. You said trigger was sampled, Shootdown/Guns/whatever is not trigger. no.. its not. |
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| GruntPosts: 60Joined: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:41 am
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joethelion wrote: just got a copy of the album about a week or so ago...
I've got to say, yea - it definitely has it's high points. But you'd be kidding yourself if you didn't think that it sounds a bit too much like "Music for the Jilted Generation Part 2" that being said... it's definitely a LOT stronger than AONO, and feels like it was actually worked on, and stuff was ironed out (which couldn't be said for AONO which felt like half done demo's mostly - which btw is inexcusable for how long it took for its release, but I digress....) is it just me, or are there MANY portions of the album that make you stop and go "Wait where did I hear that track before?" like how "Run With The Wolves" is pretty much just "Warning" with kid-friendly lyrics and a bit at the end that sounds like "Narayan Beats" (from the mid-90's live tour) [and the very intro of the track is the same as most/all performances of "Trigger" from back in 2001] or how Colours used the SAME beats as "Memphis Bells" or the bass @ 2:30 sounds the same (again) as "Warning" Yes ,I agree with you.It's a good album but many tracks reminds me of some of the tracks from previously 4 albums. IMD ,Colours- AONO style/Memphis B. Thunder- Out of Space Take Me...- Fat of the land style WD-Experience/Jilted style Run with...- the new Warning track(warning was much better) Piranha- sound like a track from maxim's second album "Fallen Angel"(i don't like it at all) Omen-Fat of the land style Omen reprise -is shit World's on - maybe the new Firestarter
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| GeneralPosts: 1006Location: SlovakiaJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:18 pm
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you are shit
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fuck sake, have you guys joined here to tell us all the bad things about album ?? you have nothing usefull to do?? Album Is Fuckin Great.Period.
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 GeneralPosts: 1780Location: EnglandJoined: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:06 pm
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baxi wrote: joethelion wrote: just got a copy of the album about a week or so ago... I've got to say, yea - it definitely has it's high points. But you'd be kidding yourself if you didn't think that it sounds a bit too much like "Music for the Jilted Generation Part 2" that being said... it's definitely a LOT stronger than AONO, and feels like it was actually worked on, and stuff was ironed out (which couldn't be said for AONO which felt like half done demo's mostly - which btw is inexcusable for how long it took for its release, but I digress....) is it just me, or are there MANY portions of the album that make you stop and go "Wait where did I hear that track before?" like how "Run With The Wolves" is pretty much just "Warning" with kid-friendly lyrics and a bit at the end that sounds like "Narayan Beats" (from the mid-90's live tour) [and the very intro of the track is the same as most/all performances of "Trigger" from back in 2001] or how Colours used the SAME beats as "Memphis Bells" or the bass @ 2:30 sounds the same (again) as "Warning" Yes ,I agree with you.It's a good album but many tracks reminds me of some of the tracks from previously 4 albums. IMD ,Colours- AONO style/Memphis B. Thunder- Out of Space Take Me...- Fat of the land style WD-Experience/Jilted style Run with...- the new Warning track(warning was much better) Piranha- sound like a track from maxim's second album "Fallen Angel"(i don't like it at all) Omen-Fat of the land style Omen reprise -is shit World's on - maybe the new Firestarter We are all entitled to our own opinions, but seriously my opinion is that your opinion is shit...
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| GruntPosts: 79Location: Brentwood, Essex (UK)Joined: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:23 pm
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baxi wrote: joethelion wrote: just got a copy of the album about a week or so ago... I've got to say, yea - it definitely has it's high points. But you'd be kidding yourself if you didn't think that it sounds a bit too much like "Music for the Jilted Generation Part 2" that being said... it's definitely a LOT stronger than AONO, and feels like it was actually worked on, and stuff was ironed out (which couldn't be said for AONO which felt like half done demo's mostly - which btw is inexcusable for how long it took for its release, but I digress....) is it just me, or are there MANY portions of the album that make you stop and go "Wait where did I hear that track before?" like how "Run With The Wolves" is pretty much just "Warning" with kid-friendly lyrics and a bit at the end that sounds like "Narayan Beats" (from the mid-90's live tour) [and the very intro of the track is the same as most/all performances of "Trigger" from back in 2001] or how Colours used the SAME beats as "Memphis Bells" or the bass @ 2:30 sounds the same (again) as "Warning" Yes ,I agree with you.It's a good album but many tracks reminds me of some of the tracks from previously 4 albums. IMD ,Colours- AONO style/Memphis B. Thunder- Out of Space Take Me...- Fat of the land style WD-Experience/Jilted style Run with...- the new Warning track(warning was much better) Piranha- sound like a track from maxim's second album "Fallen Angel"(i don't like it at all) Omen-Fat of the land style Omen reprise -is shit World's on - maybe the new Firestarter I'm gonna ram my IMD box set down your throat, oh yes that's the box set with the 7inch vinyls. Tell me omen reprise is shit then
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| GeneralPosts: 2007Location: NorwayJoined: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:50 pm
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Word's on fire is like firestarter? hehe wtf man..
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The only thing that can bring those 2 in 1 sentence is the word FIRE.
And the never ending repetition of the same |
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| GruntPosts: 2Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:03 am
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baxi wrote: joethelion wrote: just got a copy of the album about a week or so ago... I've got to say, yea - it definitely has it's high points. But you'd be kidding yourself if you didn't think that it sounds a bit too much like "Music for the Jilted Generation Part 2" that being said... it's definitely a LOT stronger than AONO, and feels like it was actually worked on, and stuff was ironed out (which couldn't be said for AONO which felt like half done demo's mostly - which btw is inexcusable for how long it took for its release, but I digress....) is it just me, or are there MANY portions of the album that make you stop and go "Wait where did I hear that track before?" like how "Run With The Wolves" is pretty much just "Warning" with kid-friendly lyrics and a bit at the end that sounds like "Narayan Beats" (from the mid-90's live tour) [and the very intro of the track is the same as most/all performances of "Trigger" from back in 2001] or how Colours used the SAME beats as "Memphis Bells" or the bass @ 2:30 sounds the same (again) as "Warning" Yes ,I agree with you.It's a good album but many tracks reminds me of some of the tracks from previously 4 albums. IMD ,Colours- AONO style/Memphis B. Thunder- Out of Space Take Me...- Fat of the land style WD-Experience/Jilted style Run with...- the new Warning track(warning was much better) Piranha- sound like a track from maxim's second album "Fallen Angel"(i don't like it at all) Omen-Fat of the land style Omen reprise -is shit World's on - maybe the new Firestarter Maybe the only reason that the tracks sound like previous tracks is, it´s the same band...think about it!! 
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| GeneralPosts: 1028Location: AmsterdamJoined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:16 pm
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It doesnt make sense to compare imd tunes to earlier ones. This album stands apart like all their albums. It uses sounds of experience, but its no experience pt.2
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| GruntPosts: 34Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:20 am
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foulmouth wrote: It doesnt make sense to compare imd tunes to earlier ones. This album stands apart like all their albums. It uses sounds of experience, but its no experience pt.2
yeah i agree,this album sounds different than all the other labums but still sounds 100% liam howlett and co |
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 GeneralPosts: 2220Location: DenmarkJoined: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:55 pm
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This album a Jilted Part 2? Wtf!! No this is IMD - Nothing like a part 2
It's a part 5 from The Prodigy. An album of it's own. I don't see how you could say it's just a part 2 of any previous album. This is The Prodigy making an absolute bombing band-album with more melodious parts to it than ever before. This album is up to date fucking with all of todays big electonic acts. Using the modern synth-sounds putting them together in the Prodogy-way. Sure there might be some old school sounds and there is! But... this is to remind us how great the band is, how great that time was, that they still rule, and for people who are not hardcore fans... To show 'em: This is The Prodigy!! etc. etc. For me this album is not like any other Prodigy album. And it doesn't sound like it's repeating past glories. This album sounds fresh, it sounds modern. It sounds like 2009. It's the Prodigy using the sounds of today in their own way with a few reminding sounds of the past. And... I love it! P.S. Don't talk shit about AONO. It was a great album! 
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