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Neuburger
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:50 pm |
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jilted wrote: disko punk wrote: I dont understand how some people cant love this album. because it's half as good as the others.
Fuck cares! If someone jumps down from a 20 meters high building, and he survives it, people will say 'dude, you are fuckin awesome!', but if after he jumps down again, and he dies, people wont say 'He is a bastard because not surviving it.'.
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quiggles
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:54 pm |
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jilted wrote: the thing is IMD isn't bad. it's bad for the prodigy.
i like it very much but there are those expectations... if it would be a new band album it will made me 'wooooooohoooooo' but as for Liam it sounds like a fucking demo, like a fucking newbies disco punk. if it's his attitude now to release rough sharp sound that's ok with him but eventually it turned to be cheap sound.
as i said, like it very much. but not luvin it. i didn't feel any hype at all. no crazy emotions like when AONO came out.
aaahh shit!
Comparing IMD to AONO is like comparing a Ferrari to a push-bike. How can anybody compare the quality of IMD to the lazy, cheap energyless embarrasment of AONO. And IMD is a bad album because there is hype or emotion like AONO?! You can't judge an album on your internal feelings or the anticipation you feel to a release date. That is your own issue that is completely unrelated to the music itself.
Musically, IMD completely annihilates the messy embarrassment of sounds of AONO. There is no comparison. IMD is a massive, massive improvement on AONO. Where are all the tunes from AONO on the live setlist these days? Gone. Forever. AONO wasn't a Prodigy album. It can't be played live. IMD has nearly an album worth of live bangers with a few exceptions (colours, omen reprise and stand up) that are going to explode on the stage - with vocals designed for live impact.
The FOTL land has more fillers than IMD (Serial Thriller, Fuel My Fire and Narayan are all mediocre). People talk about Liam being a God back then but he couldn't even put together an album of more than ten songs - with three of those songs filler tracks (one a pointless L7 cover). Now, THAT is lazy.
IMD is more inventive, more energetic, more intricate and more listenable than the TFOTL. I have been a Prodigy fan for a very long time now and I thought Liam had lost his touch after releasing AONO. I was the last person to think that IMD would be any good. It has more than exceeded my expectations. I can't believe the consistent quality of the tunes throughout the whole album. The production is superb, some of the best production on any of the Prodigy albums. The energy of the tunes, the way the album connects track-by-track, the emotional connectivity and the way the beats roll on most of the tunes (much better than AONO and TFOTL).
So, yeah, by all means, slate IMD if you want, but while your at it, slate that turd of an album AONO while your at it and have a rant about the 7-track (three filler tracks don't really count) TFOTL too. IMD is the most complete, consistent and coherent of the last three albums. No doubt.
Thank you Liam. You've still got. I've got a feeling that in months and years to come, IMD is going to sneak its way up the rankings in the 'favourite prodigy' albums. It keeps getting better and better.
MFTJG
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:15 pm |
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Captain Posts: 657Location: united kingdomJoined: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:58 pm
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quiggles wrote: jilted wrote: the thing is IMD isn't bad. it's bad for the prodigy.
i like it very much but there are those expectations... if it would be a new band album it will made me 'wooooooohoooooo' but as for Liam it sounds like a fucking demo, like a fucking newbies disco punk. if it's his attitude now to release rough sharp sound that's ok with him but eventually it turned to be cheap sound.
as i said, like it very much. but not luvin it. i didn't feel any hype at all. no crazy emotions like when AONO came out.
aaahh shit! Comparing IMD to AONO is like comparing a Ferrari to a push-bike. How can anybody compare the quality of IMD to the lazy, cheap energyless embarrasment of AONO. And IMD is a bad album because there is hype or emotion like AONO?! You can't judge an album on your internal feelings or the anticipation you feel to a release date. That is your own issue that is completely unrelated to the music itself. Musically, IMD completely annihilates the messy embarrassment of sounds of AONO. There is no comparison. IMD is a massive, massive improvement on AONO. Where are all the tunes from AONO on the live setlist these days? Gone. Forever. AONO wasn't a Prodigy album. It can't be played live. IMD has nearly an album worth of live bangers with a few exceptions (colours, omen reprise and stand up) that are going to explode on the stage - with vocals designed for live impact. The FOTL land has more fillers than IMD (Serial Thriller, Fuel My Fire and Narayan are all mediocre). People talk about Liam being a God back then but he couldn't even put together an album of more than ten songs - with three of those songs filler tracks (one a pointless L7 cover). Now, THAT is lazy. IMD is more inventive, more energetic, more intricate and more listenable than the TFOTL. I have been a Prodigy fan for a very long time now and I thought Liam had lost his touch after releasing AONO. I was the last person to think that IMD would be any good. It has more than exceeded my expectations. I can't believe the consistent quality of the tunes throughout the whole album. The production is superb, some of the best production on any of the Prodigy albums. The energy of the tunes, the way the album connects track-by-track, the emotional connectivity and the way the beats roll on most of the tunes (much better than AONO and TFOTL). So, yeah, by all means, slate IMD if you want, but while your at it, slate that turd of an album AONO while your at it and have a rant about the 7-track (three filler tracks don't really count) TFOTL too. IMD is the most complete, consistent and coherent of the last three albums. No doubt. Thank you Liam. You've still got. I've got a feeling that in months and years to come, IMD is going to sneak its way up the rankings in the 'favourite prodigy' albums. It keeps getting better and better. MFTJG IMD/TFOTL EXPERIENCE AONO
agree with what you say about IMD its epic, but not what you say about AONO, that is still a good album imo, spitfire, girls, wake up call, hotride are awesome tracks and prodigy tracks if you will...AONO is well under rated imo as will IMD because look what was written previous to these two!,,,FOTL is as if not more important than never mind the bollocks, nevermind, definitely maybe, thats what liam has set himself....!
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quiggles
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:49 pm |
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freehandjunkie wrote: quiggles wrote: jilted wrote: the thing is IMD isn't bad. it's bad for the prodigy.
i like it very much but there are those expectations... if it would be a new band album it will made me 'wooooooohoooooo' but as for Liam it sounds like a fucking demo, like a fucking newbies disco punk. if it's his attitude now to release rough sharp sound that's ok with him but eventually it turned to be cheap sound.
as i said, like it very much. but not luvin it. i didn't feel any hype at all. no crazy emotions like when AONO came out.
aaahh shit! Comparing IMD to AONO is like comparing a Ferrari to a push-bike. How can anybody compare the quality of IMD to the lazy, cheap energyless embarrasment of AONO. And IMD is a bad album because there is hype or emotion like AONO?! You can't judge an album on your internal feelings or the anticipation you feel to a release date. That is your own issue that is completely unrelated to the music itself. Musically, IMD completely annihilates the messy embarrassment of sounds of AONO. There is no comparison. IMD is a massive, massive improvement on AONO. Where are all the tunes from AONO on the live setlist these days? Gone. Forever. AONO wasn't a Prodigy album. It can't be played live. IMD has nearly an album worth of live bangers with a few exceptions (colours, omen reprise and stand up) that are going to explode on the stage - with vocals designed for live impact. The FOTL land has more fillers than IMD (Serial Thriller, Fuel My Fire and Narayan are all mediocre). People talk about Liam being a God back then but he couldn't even put together an album of more than ten songs - with three of those songs filler tracks (one a pointless L7 cover). Now, THAT is lazy. IMD is more inventive, more energetic, more intricate and more listenable than the TFOTL. I have been a Prodigy fan for a very long time now and I thought Liam had lost his touch after releasing AONO. I was the last person to think that IMD would be any good. It has more than exceeded my expectations. I can't believe the consistent quality of the tunes throughout the whole album. The production is superb, some of the best production on any of the Prodigy albums. The energy of the tunes, the way the album connects track-by-track, the emotional connectivity and the way the beats roll on most of the tunes (much better than AONO and TFOTL). So, yeah, by all means, slate IMD if you want, but while your at it, slate that turd of an album AONO while your at it and have a rant about the 7-track (three filler tracks don't really count) TFOTL too. IMD is the most complete, consistent and coherent of the last three albums. No doubt. Thank you Liam. You've still got. I've got a feeling that in months and years to come, IMD is going to sneak its way up the rankings in the 'favourite prodigy' albums. It keeps getting better and better. MFTJG IMD/TFOTL EXPERIENCE AONO agree with what you say about IMD its epic, but not what you say about AONO, that is still a good album imo, spitfire, girls, wake up call, hotride are awesome tracks and prodigy tracks if you will...AONO is well under rated imo as will IMD because look what was written previous to these two!,,,FOTL is as if not more important than never mind the bollocks, nevermind, definitely maybe, thats what liam has set himself....!
I agree with your choice of tracks you said were good on AONO. Girls, Spitfire (single version) and Wake up call are the best tracks on the album and my favourites. Although I don't include Hotride. Having said that, it still remains that they are the ONLY prodigy tracks on a 12-track album. Thats one quarter of the album total. Not really a Prodigy album then is it? And Girls was dropped after a few months in the live set. As was wake-up call (which I don't understand - it rocked!) and Hotride. That only leaves Spitfire as the only playable Prodigy live track (and even that has been dropped). Your comment is an intelligent and thoughtful comment. What I can't get is the people who compare AONO favourably to IMD as a Prodigy album. It simply isn't. There is no comparison. The beats on AONO are stop-start - they don't roll. Girls (the best track) doesn't work live. The sounds are cheap. Half an album of fillers. No punch, no sudden rush of energy. So mediocre and so-so.
IMD is, at least, the Prodigy being the Prodigy.
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:51 pm |
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quiggles wrote: jilted wrote: the thing is IMD isn't bad. it's bad for the prodigy.
i like it very much but there are those expectations... if it would be a new band album it will made me 'wooooooohoooooo' but as for Liam it sounds like a fucking demo, like a fucking newbies disco punk. if it's his attitude now to release rough sharp sound that's ok with him but eventually it turned to be cheap sound.
as i said, like it very much. but not luvin it. i didn't feel any hype at all. no crazy emotions like when AONO came out.
aaahh shit! Comparing IMD to AONO is like comparing a Ferrari to a push-bike. How can anybody compare the quality of IMD to the lazy, cheap energyless embarrasment of AONO. And IMD is a bad album because there is hype or emotion like AONO?! You can't judge an album on your internal feelings or the anticipation you feel to a release date. That is your own issue that is completely unrelated to the music itself. Musically, IMD completely annihilates the messy embarrassment of sounds of AONO. There is no comparison. IMD is a massive, massive improvement on AONO. Where are all the tunes from AONO on the live setlist these days? Gone. Forever. AONO wasn't a Prodigy album. It can't be played live. IMD has nearly an album worth of live bangers with a few exceptions (colours, omen reprise and stand up) that are going to explode on the stage - with vocals designed for live impact. The FOTL land has more fillers than IMD (Serial Thriller, Fuel My Fire and Narayan are all mediocre). People talk about Liam being a God back then but he couldn't even put together an album of more than ten songs - with three of those songs filler tracks (one a pointless L7 cover). Now, THAT is lazy. IMD is more inventive, more energetic, more intricate and more listenable than the TFOTL. I have been a Prodigy fan for a very long time now and I thought Liam had lost his touch after releasing AONO. I was the last person to think that IMD would be any good. It has more than exceeded my expectations. I can't believe the consistent quality of the tunes throughout the whole album. The production is superb, some of the best production on any of the Prodigy albums. The energy of the tunes, the way the album connects track-by-track, the emotional connectivity and the way the beats roll on most of the tunes (much better than AONO and TFOTL). So, yeah, by all means, slate IMD if you want, but while your at it, slate that turd of an album AONO while your at it and have a rant about the 7-track (three filler tracks don't really count) TFOTL too. IMD is the most complete, consistent and coherent of the last three albums. No doubt. Thank you Liam. You've still got. I've got a feeling that in months and years to come, IMD is going to sneak its way up the rankings in the 'favourite prodigy' albums. It keeps getting better and better. MFTJG IMD/TFOTL EXPERIENCE AONO
Do you compare Serial Thriller with Piranha?  IMD is more inventive and more listenable than THE FAT???  maybe for the young fans.I cannot describe you the felling when i first listen The Fat back in 97" or when Smack My Bitch Up blow my mind,as for IMD ,is a very good album,but is not that felling man....
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:10 pm |
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baxi wrote: quiggles wrote: jilted wrote: the thing is IMD isn't bad. it's bad for the prodigy.
i like it very much but there are those expectations... if it would be a new band album it will made me 'wooooooohoooooo' but as for Liam it sounds like a fucking demo, like a fucking newbies disco punk. if it's his attitude now to release rough sharp sound that's ok with him but eventually it turned to be cheap sound.
as i said, like it very much. but not luvin it. i didn't feel any hype at all. no crazy emotions like when AONO came out.
aaahh shit! Comparing IMD to AONO is like comparing a Ferrari to a push-bike. How can anybody compare the quality of IMD to the lazy, cheap energyless embarrasment of AONO. And IMD is a bad album because there is hype or emotion like AONO?! You can't judge an album on your internal feelings or the anticipation you feel to a release date. That is your own issue that is completely unrelated to the music itself. Musically, IMD completely annihilates the messy embarrassment of sounds of AONO. There is no comparison. IMD is a massive, massive improvement on AONO. Where are all the tunes from AONO on the live setlist these days? Gone. Forever. AONO wasn't a Prodigy album. It can't be played live. IMD has nearly an album worth of live bangers with a few exceptions (colours, omen reprise and stand up) that are going to explode on the stage - with vocals designed for live impact. The FOTL land has more fillers than IMD (Serial Thriller, Fuel My Fire and Narayan are all mediocre). People talk about Liam being a God back then but he couldn't even put together an album of more than ten songs - with three of those songs filler tracks (one a pointless L7 cover). Now, THAT is lazy. IMD is more inventive, more energetic, more intricate and more listenable than the TFOTL. I have been a Prodigy fan for a very long time now and I thought Liam had lost his touch after releasing AONO. I was the last person to think that IMD would be any good. It has more than exceeded my expectations. I can't believe the consistent quality of the tunes throughout the whole album. The production is superb, some of the best production on any of the Prodigy albums. The energy of the tunes, the way the album connects track-by-track, the emotional connectivity and the way the beats roll on most of the tunes (much better than AONO and TFOTL). So, yeah, by all means, slate IMD if you want, but while your at it, slate that turd of an album AONO while your at it and have a rant about the 7-track (three filler tracks don't really count) TFOTL too. IMD is the most complete, consistent and coherent of the last three albums. No doubt. Thank you Liam. You've still got. I've got a feeling that in months and years to come, IMD is going to sneak its way up the rankings in the 'favourite prodigy' albums. It keeps getting better and better. MFTJG IMD/TFOTL EXPERIENCE AONO Do you compare Serial Thriller with Piranha?  IMD is more inventive and more listenable than THE FAT???  maybe for the young fans.I cannot describe you the felling when i first listen The Fat back in 97" or when Smack My Bitch Up blow my mind,as for IMD ,is a very good album,but is not that felling man.... 
First, I'm not a young fan. I bought TFOTL on the first day of its release. I watched The Prodigy play live when Breathe was number one. Secondly, I like TFOTL. Secondly, I like The Fat of The Land - thats why I rate joint second best album - see my post. Do I compare Piranha to Serial Thrilla. Yes I do. Piranha is clever, with better breaks, better productions, better beats, better vocals and a less obvious and more diverse (and yes, inventive) song structure tha Serial Thrilla. Serial Thrilla was Liam trying to replicate Firestarter and Breathe (both written before Serial Thrilla - and laying the foundations for BGAT) and only managed to create dodgy rock n' roll song that wasn't even that well-produced. Run is an example of how a tune like this should be done. Obviously Liam has learned from his mistakes. What I like about IMD is how non-linear some of the tracks are (in comparison to TFOTL) and how they diverge into other avenues and sounds as the tracks progress. TFOTL beats IMD for sheer pounding brute force power. But yes, I say again, IMD is more inventive.
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:16 pm |
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You must be kidding me telling that Narayan is a mediocre track...
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quiggles
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:23 pm |
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raggedflag wrote: You must be kidding me telling that Narayan is a mediocre track...
Better than Serial Thrilla and Fuel My Fire, but still rather skippable. Good ideas but it never really broke out of itself and went anywhere. And like Serial Thrilla, the production was ropey. Listen to the moody synth effects (not the piano line) that play throughout - they don't come through very well. The mantra was the best bit of the tune. It sort of reminds me of the album version of Spitfire. Good potential...but ultimately doesn't really go anywhere.
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:52 pm |
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Lieutenant Posts: 579Location: BulgariaJoined: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:58 pm
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Fuel My Fire, Serial Thrilla and Narayan are all great tracks
The only TFOTL track I ever considered a filler is Climbatize, but then again it definitely has its place on the album.
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:00 pm |
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Major Posts: 708Location: Adelaide, AustraliaJoined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:57 pm
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Pointless thread is... pointless.
If I attempt to try and read any of this crap coming from people who try to come across like they are experts in the art of making music I will want to smash my screen in.
There, thats my opinion...
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:02 pm |
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n/a wrote: Fuel My Fire, Serial Thrilla and Narayan are all great tracks The only TFOTL track I ever considered a filler is Climbatize, but then again it definitely has its place on the album.
 Climbaitze is one of the best Prodigy track!
No one can tell that its bad!
Only people who hasnt enough patience to get into this track
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:04 pm |
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Lieutenant Posts: 578Location: RomaniaJoined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:08 am
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Here's my 2 cents on this. IMD sees itself in a impossible situation. On one hand, it has to clear the mediocrity that surrounded AONO, and it does that very good. On the other hand, when Liam made the previous albums, specially FOTL, he set a standard for everything that will come after. IMD is no way near as good as FOTL, but it IS good if one can be objective about it and not think about the past. 95% of the fans will always compare every Prodigy material to mega-hits from the early days, like Firestarter or Breathe. They just can't get the fact that it will never be a FOTL v2.0.
I like IMD, not as much as I enjoyed the other albums (except AONO), but I like it. It's a comeback, and a strong one, if we look at today's music trends and shitty artists. Many said that "this is not their best". No, it's not, but they simply can't innovate and live in the past at the same time. Prodigy already had their best, and that can't and won't be topped by anyone for many years to come.
As for FOTL having more fillers than IMD...well, I just can't see ANY of the tracks as fillers, I loved (and still do) each and everyone of them, as those were truly masterpieces. You'll be under my wheels, THAT is a filler, not Narayan or Serial Thrilla.
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disko punk wrote: jilted wrote: the thing is IMD isn't bad. it's bad for the prodigy.
i like it very much but there are those expectations... if it would be a new band album it will made me 'wooooooohoooooo' but as for Liam it sounds like a fucking demo, like a fucking newbies disco punk. if it's his attitude now to release rough sharp sound that's ok with him but eventually it turned to be cheap sound.
as i said, like it very much. but not luvin it. i didn't feel any hype at all. no crazy emotions like when AONO came out.
aaahh shit! I feel sorry for you. Really. Not because you are stupid or anything, just because you didnt feel anything about this album. it must be bad.
jilted is absolutely right
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:18 pm |
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General Posts: 1007Location: Atomic WastelandJoined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:26 am
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disko punk wrote: jilted wrote: the thing is IMD isn't bad. it's bad for the prodigy.
i like it very much but there are those expectations... if it would be a new band album it will made me 'wooooooohoooooo' but as for Liam it sounds like a fucking demo, like a fucking newbies disco punk. if it's his attitude now to release rough sharp sound that's ok with him but eventually it turned to be cheap sound.
as i said, like it very much. but not luvin it. i didn't feel any hype at all. no crazy emotions like when AONO came out.
aaahh shit! I feel sorry for you. Really. Not because you are stupid or anything, just because you didnt feel anything about this album. it must be bad.
i think i feel a lot about this album. emotions are fighting together
it's just.... it's cool and all... but it all this IMD project feels like not what i expected from such band, my favourite band!
and this album is a part of the history of this band.
but enough this blah blah blah...
it sure depends about your personal music soul. if u love it, that's cool.
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:57 pm |
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I would like to summarize since I started this  I see people who agree with me and have figured out my main point and frankly I'm glad. I must state that I respect all of the opinions given and i didn't want to offend anyone of you. The very simple truth for me is that the peak ended with The Fat Of the Land...This was the last innovative and ground-breaking piece of Prodigy - a unique mixture of ideas, styles, emotions - marvelous masterpiece outrun only by the Music For the Jilted...After this...The Big Break...The high expectations, increasing with the time passing...BGAT - excitement around the return but something was just missing...In AONO I was already prepared to disappoint myself...Yes It was a nice album, but far from prodigy energy - I'm not talking about Fat of the land as quality....The criteria have already been set high...now IMD...Just Nothing more than Less Favorite...
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