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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:46 pm
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Hillinger wrote:
I would like to summarize since I started this :) I see people who agree with me and have figured out my main point and frankly I'm glad. I must state that I respect all of the opinions given and i didn't want to offend anyone of you. The very simple truth for me is that the peak ended with The Fat Of the Land...This was the last innovative and ground-breaking piece of Prodigy - a unique mixture of ideas, styles, emotions - marvelous masterpiece outrun only by the Music For the Jilted...After this...The Big Break...The high expectations, increasing with the time passing...BGAT - excitement around the return but something was just missing...In AONO I was already prepared to disappoint myself...Yes It was a nice album, but far from prodigy energy - I'm not talking about Fat of the land as quality....The criteria have already been set high...now IMD...Just Nothing more than Less Favorite...

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:08 am
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The Last Ninja wrote:
Pointless thread is... pointless.

If I attempt to try and read any of this crap coming from people who try to come across like they are experts in the art of making music I will want to smash my screen in.

There, thats my opinion...

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:09 am
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1. after 2000-2004 breakdown nothing will ever be the same

all that time's dreams & unreal epic expectations should be put down in dirty toilet a long time ago

2. the best awesomeness of IMDs album is becos it's the fuckin greatest grower ever

yeah it's a total grower. 'first moment's impression' doesnt work with it at all. u need to bite through this album. u need to fight with this album. u need to discover hidden meanings, and secret fields which are a sign of howlett's genius - but thess signs are somewhere much deeper, than they used to be in the 90s ..... no patience = no understanding the material
u don't need a day to understand that record. u don't need a week or 5 months. u need whole years, whole light years. u need a hundred of gigs, u need to discover that energy which hadnt been even unreleased yet.....

piranha, thunder .... omenreprise, even colours and run .... and all the lost beats .... i simply cannot wait when liam will finally fuck up his setlist will all of this.. and open new page in live prodigy history


i'm sure that after years no one involved with prodigy will ever call that album using another word than brillant

hope some day these who today are haters and moaners, will understand what i was talking about here

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:43 am
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I guess everybody´s taste to all the prodigy albums are different. For one person a track is just a filler, for the next one just a skip-track and for another person the same track is a masterpiece. Everyone defines his good and bad tracks by prodigy, sums them up and the album with the most good tracks is the best one and the album with the most worse tracks is the worst one.

Individual tastes results to different opinions, but we should accept them. I guess if you say i.e. "Invaders must die" is the weakest Prodigy-album you must admit "Okay, it disappointed me, cos older albums are better", but I think you can also say "Okay, it´s the weakest album, but it has some climaxes!"

Like I said in my review, there will be never be an album IMO whihch I can´t stop listening to, cos it depends on my mood, what rack I like by prodigy inmoment.



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:41 am
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Hillinger wrote:
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To each his own off course.. But saying on one side how mediocre they are and on the other how they should be inspired by crystal method seems then strange. They take the throne of mediocraty!



The Crystal Method are now the best :) They have succeeded in keeping the quality, mood and the excitement over the years...There was a time when Crystal Method was as a whole inspired by The Prodigy...


They lack diversity and their tunes cannot be compared to prodigy tunes. Lack power and talent..


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:53 am
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foulmouth wrote:
Hillinger wrote:
foulmouth wrote:
To each his own off course.. But saying on one side how mediocre they are and on the other how they should be inspired by crystal method seems then strange. They take the throne of mediocraty!



The Crystal Method are now the best :) They have succeeded in keeping the quality, mood and the excitement over the years...There was a time when Crystal Method was as a whole inspired by The Prodigy...


They lack diversity and their tunes cannot be compared to prodigy tunes. Lack power and talent..


are you sure? Yes, u can't compare No Good to Keep Hope Alive, Smack My Bitch Up to Trip Like I do, Their Law to Weapons of mass distortion e.t.c and that is exactly my point...I'd rather You Try Medusa's Path to I Know It's You... Girls to High And Low...Memphis Bell to Acetone... :?: :?: :?:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:00 am
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Will do, i will have to find these tracks again tho..


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:19 am
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foulmouth wrote:
Will do, i will have to find these tracks again tho..


alright :)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:23 am
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it's a bigg grower :wink:



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:43 am
User avatarCaptainCaptainPosts: 664Location: CroatiaJoined: Mon May 19, 2008 7:18 am
i know this ain't the best album they've done, but it's a bit silly thinkin they could repeat FOTL. i mean think of yourself 12 years before. can you still be that same person like 12 years before? people change and so does music and everything else. for me most of what they release is good because there are not many bands you can compare them to. of course there are a lot of electronic/rock crossover bands, but none like these guys. they might be better of course but theyre the best we got so far

and another thing, everyone can make music like this. everyone knows a good track from a bad one. everyone can sample and copy/paste in reason or whatever. and yet... they are the only ones who do it at this level


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:55 pm
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quiggles wrote:
[The FOTL land has more fillers than IMD (Serial Thriller, Fuel My Fire and Narayan are all mediocre). People talk about Liam being a God back then but he couldn't even put together an album of more than ten songs - with three of those songs filler tracks (one a pointless L7 cover). Now, THAT is lazy.


I agree with the rest of your post about IMD etc. but I dont about this.

I hadnt listened to FOTL for a long time because I just got tired of it, but began listening to the old albums again in preperation for the release of IMD. FOTL is even better than I remembered.

Unless Liam has stated otherwise, I wouldnt call Serial Thrilla or Narayan fillers. A shorter version of Serial Thrilla would fit in well with the power of the current live show in my opinion and its a much better tune than I ever gave it credit for (I never used to like it). Narayan is one of the better tracks on the album for me and i hold it near epic status. Love the lyrics, love the sound, love the beats at the end.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:29 pm
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Personally I like the Jilted sound the best. Its the most electronic of the albums and I love the dark, disturbed theme of the album. Whilst it does have one or two fillers, its my favourite sound.

FOTL is the most complete though. Not a bad or skipable song on it for me. Songs I never used to like when I was 15 listening to it I love now (Climbatize for example). Fuel My Fire probably could have sounded better...maybe a bit cleaner. The flow of the album probably isnt the best either, but as a complete album, its the best of The Prodigy and one of the best records of the modern era.

AONO was rubbish. Whilst it had its moments (Spitfire, Wake Up Call are two), half the tracks on the album are simply unlistenable for me and theres a very good reason why there are no tracks from the album on the setlist at the moment. Given the incredible sound of IMD (I truly love this album to bits), I see AONO as probably the biggest dissapointment ive heard in music. A waste of creative years.

Experience to me hasnt aged well but its still a great album that will get you moving. Personally I like versions of tracks that arent on the album (Your Love, Charly, EITP are three). Its hard to rate the album because it is such an old sound nowadays, but at the time it was completely fresh and unheard of in the mainstream before.

Even at this early stage I hold IMD in very high regard. Its got the perfect blend between modern and traditional Prodigy sounds. It was written entirely for the live show imo and really the only filler is Omen Reprise and even that could be used as an intro or outro in the live show.

For me id rate the albums on a personal likeness level:

Jilted - 10
FOTL - 9
IMD - 9
Experience - 7
AONO - 3


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:24 pm
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Macca wrote:
Personally I like the Jilted sound the best. Its the most electronic of the albums and I love the dark, disturbed theme of the album. Whilst it does have one or two fillers, its my favourite sound.

FOTL is the most complete though. Not a bad or skipable song on it for me. Songs I never used to like when I was 15 listening to it I love now (Climbatize for example). Fuel My Fire probably could have sounded better...maybe a bit cleaner. The flow of the album probably isnt the best either, but as a complete album, its the best of The Prodigy and one of the best records of the modern era.

AONO was rubbish. Whilst it had its moments (Spitfire, Wake Up Call are two), half the tracks on the album are simply unlistenable for me and theres a very good reason why there are no tracks from the album on the setlist at the moment. Given the incredible sound of IMD (I truly love this album to bits), I see AONO as probably the biggest dissapointment ive heard in music. A waste of creative years.

Experience to me hasnt aged well but its still a great album that will get you moving. Personally I like versions of tracks that arent on the album (Your Love, Charly, EITP are three). Its hard to rate the album because it is such an old sound nowadays, but at the time it was completely fresh and unheard of in the mainstream before.

Even at this early stage I hold IMD in very high regard. Its got the perfect blend between modern and traditional Prodigy sounds. It was written entirely for the live show imo and really the only filler is Omen Reprise and even that could be used as an intro or outro in the live show.

For me id rate the albums on a personal likeness level:

Jilted - 10
FOTL - 9
IMD - 9
Experience - 7
AONO - 3

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totally agree though i would give aono 5 and Experience 8



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