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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:25 pm
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thank you!! :-D


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download limit already reached. could someone re-up pls?



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:57 pm
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Think I've found another sample. The main drum loop on TMTTH is *very* similar to that on Chemical Brothers' Loops Of Fury:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltm0RvVH49o



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Wozburger wrote:


cheers Woz!



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:28 pm
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im not fully up on sampling copyright and how much of a sample u can use before u have to get permission, but surely just look at the sleeve and look at the samples used, or can u rework something without getting permission etc,,, it seems people are coming up with samples for TMTTH when there are just 2 samples, pepe deluxe and asher d being the artists...have i missed something?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:30 pm
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freehandjunkie wrote:
im not fully up on sampling copyright and how much of a sample u can use before u have to get permission, but surely just look at the sleeve and look at the samples used, or can u rework something without getting permission etc,,, it seems people are coming up with samples for TMTTH when there are just 2 samples, pepe deluxe and asher d being the artists...have i missed something?


you haven't missed anything.

if they had sampled the chems they would've been credited...

...jetsonik112 is just drunk or something :twisted:



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:15 pm
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freehandjunkie wrote:
im not fully up on sampling copyright and how much of a sample u can use before u have to get permission, but surely just look at the sleeve and look at the samples used, or can u rework something without getting permission etc,,, it seems people are coming up with samples for TMTTH when there are just 2 samples, pepe deluxe and asher d being the artists...have i missed something?


You have to ask for permission when you use 'a substantial sample' of somebody elses work. The word substantial doesn't necessarily length of time of the sample, but rather that the sample used is distinguishable as a particular author's work. Copyright also exists in two forms: the performance copyright - actual musical material (the melody/pattern/lyrics) and the mechanical copyright - the actual physical sound recording. That's why some elements have had to be re-recorded or recreated, such as rasta peace song in Thunder and the beat in The Way It Is (Liam wasn't allowed to directly sample it from Michael Jackson) in order to bypass the mechanical copyright and only paying for performance copyright. Hope this helps you out a little...



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:21 pm
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Squarelab wrote:
freehandjunkie wrote:
im not fully up on sampling copyright and how much of a sample u can use before u have to get permission, but surely just look at the sleeve and look at the samples used, or can u rework something without getting permission etc,,, it seems people are coming up with samples for TMTTH when there are just 2 samples, pepe deluxe and asher d being the artists...have i missed something?


You have to ask for permission when you use 'a substantial sample' of somebody elses work. The word substantial doesn't necessarily length of time of the sample, but rather that the sample used is distinguishable as a particular author's work. Copyright also exists in two forms: the performance copyright - actual musical material (the melody/pattern/lyrics) and the mechanical copyright - the actual physical sound recording. That's why some elements have had to be re-recorded or recreated, such as rasta peace song in Thunder and the beat in The Way It Is (Liam wasn't allowed to directly sample it from Michael Jackson) in order to bypass the mechanical copyright and only paying for performance copyright. Hope this helps you out a little...



ah right thankyou, i know a bit more than i thought!

yeah liam would never have got clearance or been able to afford the michael jackson sample...


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:05 pm
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Michael Jackson doesnt own the rights to thriller
so wouldnt imagine it cost that much
there was also another dance track that used similar samples


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:43 am
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crazyboy wrote:
if they had sampled the chems they would've been credited...

...jetsonik112 is just drunk or something :twisted:


It's probably just a standard preset loop or something.. ;)

It's definately the same sample though.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:50 am
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i think i read something in an interview about this thriller thingy.
was something like they've spent hours (lian & neil), or even days in the studio trying to recreate that part cos it would have cost to much to sample it straight off the record.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:54 am
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where comes the "ivaders must die" sample from?



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:37 pm
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MoozeBlaster wrote:
where comes the "ivaders must die" sample from?


Don't think it's sampled... would have been too cheap to base your album title, and title track on a sample in my eyes.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:40 pm
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So you think its Liams voice? :lol:



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